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Veterans Dealing with Moral Injury

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Fugate & Hertner
Joel Natalie interviews Rev. David Fugate and Jim Hertner, Nov. 6, 2025. Photo by Shani Bills, TalkErie.com.

On Thursday, Joel was joined by former chaplain of the Erie VA Medical Center, Rev. David Fugate and Jim Hertner, retired real estate broker and former Navy Medic serving US Marines in the Vietnam War. We discussed the hidden wounds of war, including PTSD and moral injury.